FATHERS RIGHTS INFILTRATION OF
THE DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES

FATHERS' RIGHTS AND EQUALITY EXCHANGE

BRENT WELLMAN, Associate Director, F.R.E.E.

Forwarded message:
From: wellman@vix.com (Brent Wellman)
Reply-to: wellman@vix.com (Brent Wellman)
To: free-all@vix.com

There will be an AOL-sponsored dad-bashing session on the "Evenings with Eva" section of this service at 9:00 pm Eastern 6:00 pm Pacific; it will be guest hosted by Trish Wilson, alias ASHERAH, one of the most rabid gender-feminists around. ... Those of you who can stand the venom should participate to 1. show the world that dads are needed by our children, our future, 2. we are not about pateranlism [i.e., male supremacy], 3. we are not simply a collection of "angry men,"(after all, many of us are women) and 4. that the gender feminism this chat session is meant to promote is nothing but misandric claptrap. ... In *either* case, feel F.R.E.E.[tm] to email me or Anne to find out how you can help :-).

ASHERAH, is the name of a Caananite goddess. Asherah was represented in their religious ceremonies by a wooden post or phallus. By adopting this name, Ms. Wilson hopes to be some sort of female penis.

ANNE MITCHELL, founder and director of F.R.E.E.

Subject: Re: Does Stu have a defense fund?
From: shedevil@vix.com (Anne P. Mitchell Esq.)
Date: 1995/06/03
Message-ID: 3qqvp1$in9@gw.home.vix.com
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.free-l

In a recent missive fgj@ELECTRICITI.COM tells us:
*
*How about a letter writing campaign for Stuart Miller? That's more
*powerful and less costly. If Stu agrees and gives us the name of the
*judge and the case number, we will see that at least 50 letters will

You seem to be forgetting that the charge is contempt for failure to pay
support*...any collateral attack which doesn't take this into account
will be an impotent and "angry men" sounding attack indeed.

WARREN FARRELL, F.R.E.E. Advisory Board

"When I get my most glowing positive cases, 6 out of 200," says Farrell, "the incest is part of the family's open, sensual style of life, wherein sex is an outgrowth of warmth and affection. It is more likely that the father has good sex with his wife, and his wife is likely to know and approve -- and in one or two cases to join in."

"... [M]illions of people who are now refraining from touching, holding, and genitally caressing their children, when that is really part of a caring, loving expression, are repressing the sexuality of a lot of children and themselves. ... [T]housands of people in therapy for incest are being told, in essence, that their lives have been ruined by incest. In fact, their lives have not generally been affected as much by the incest as by the overall atmosphere. ..."

"[Dr. Paul Gebhard, then director of the Institute for Sex Research in Bloomington, Indiana] is releasing Kinsey's startling incest material for incorporation in Warren Farrell's work-in-progress, The Last Taboo: the Three Faces of Incest. According to the cultural gatekeepers in New York publishing, America still wasn't ready to hear about positive incest in the mid seventies. Farrell's impressive credentials - a Ph.D. in political science from N.Y.U., former board member of the National Organization for Women, and author of a book entitled Beyond Masculinity -- counted as nothing. His forty-one-page outline (including two sizzling case histories -- one with a New York Writer who has intercourse regularly with his seventeen-year old daughter, occasionally supplemented by threesomes with the daughter's girlfriend, and another with a Notre Dame graduate who made love to his mother for ten years) was returned by twenty-two houses last fall..."

"NBC's "Weekend visit to the Santa Clara County Child Sexual Abuse Treatment Center in San Jose will not help Farrell and [Dr. James Ramey, a sociologist who has also written positive incest material] convince anyone that incest is less than a scourge."

"Although Farrell has personally familiarized [Hank Giaretto, director of the Santa Clara Abuse Treatment Center] with his findings on positive incest before the "Weekend" taping, Giaretto failed to temper his apocalyptism on camera."

"Warren Farrell admires Giaretto's rehabilitative mission among legitimate victims, for his own investigation of positive incest allows for considerable negativity, particularly in the father-daughter category. But he faults "Weekend" for its skewed perspective. "It was like interviewing Cuban refugees about Cuba. "Weekend" recorded sexually abused children speaking about their sexual abuse, which is valuable, but the inference is that all incest is abuse. And that's not true."

"The idea for the book struck him after reading a Times article about incest early last year. According to the piece, only a tiny fraction of the cases ever reaches the courts. In 1976 New York City police received merely one incest complaint and no arrests. Farrell wondered if perhaps some incidents weren't reported because the relationships went smoothly. Since nothing had been written about nonpatient-nonoffender participants, he decided the gap was too large to ignore."

"...[H]is preliminary data suggest that the taboo needs severe overhauling. Breaking down the effects into positive (beneficial), negative (traumatic), and mixed (nontraumatic but not regarded as beneficial) categories -- the three faces of incest in his subtitle -- he says that the overwhelming majority of cases fall into the positive column. Cousin-cousin (including uncle-niece and aunt-nephew) and brother-sister (including sibling homosexuality) relations, accounting for about half of the total incidence, are perceived as beneficial in 95 percent of the cases. ... Farrell points out that boys don't seem to suffer, not even from the negative experiences. "Girls are much more influenced by the dictates of society and are more willing to take on sexual guilt."

"Farrell also hopes to change public attitudes so that participants in incest will no longer be automatically perceived as victims. 'The average incest participant can't evaluate his or her experience for what it was. As soon as society gets into the picture, they have to tell themselves it was bad. It's a self-fulfilling prophecy.' "

"Warren Farrell prophesies that incest will be a major social issue in the eighties. If so, the debate will be bloody and presumably unproductive. Those who accept the original sin of incest, the great Judeo-Christian majority, will not be dissuaded by anyone's case studies. The last taboo could become the last straw as the Save Our Children movement heads closer to home."

KATHY YOUNG, F.R.E.E. Advisory Board

"The question is how to confront the real biases affecting men without lapsing into the whining and gender warfare that permeate modern feminism -- and also show up in some masculist publications, where men said to be unjustly convicted of sexual assault are described as "political prisoners" and the status of American males under feminist rule is compared to that of Jews in Nazi Germany. Men's advocates have had, at best, limited success in reaching the public."

"Warren Farrell, formerly an activist in the women's movement and the only man elected three times to the board of the National Organization for Women. Farrell is the author of The Myth of Male Power (Simon & Schuster, 1993), which Barbara Dority, co-chair of the Northwest Feminist Anti-Censorship Taskforce, says has the "potential for being The Feminine Mystique of the men's movement." Farrell writes: 'Feminism justified female 'victim power' by convincing the world that we lived in a sexist, male-dominated, and patriarchal world. The Myth of Male Power explains why the world is bi-sexist, both male *and* female-dominated, both patriarchal and matriarchal -- each in different ways.' "

It's not surprising that there is no mention of "positive incest" in Young's gushing over Warren Farrell. Could NOW have booted Farrell after discovering his views on incest???

"In its attempt to change attitudes, the men's movement deals with some explosive issues, including false accusations of rape and alleged bias against men in the treatment of family violence. When men's activists insist that husband beating is as big a problem as wife beating, it seems a sure way to make most feminists see red."

"Most of the evidence indicates that spousal assault is usually mutual, initiated in equal numbers by men and women. (When only one partner is physically abusive, it is as often the woman as the man.) True, in those domestic violence cases in which one partner is completely controlled and terrorized by the other, most of the victims are female; but such cases make up a tiny percentage of abusive couples."

JAN COHEN, Former CoParent Outreach Coordinator. Recently signed on as Advisor to the American Coalition for Fathers and Children (ACFC).

Re: Mandated/Court-ordered Mediation -Reply

Jan F. Cohen (@pb.net) [Author Profile]
Friday, November 28, 1997 11:09 AM PST

... I wanted my son, she didn't have the resources to contest my wants, and I got what I thought I was after at that time. Then, for two years, because of the distance between us (both literally and rhetorically), my son had little contact with his mom.